TheMastermario22 2013-07-03 22:01:36

I have waited soooo long for this! SO LONG! REJOICE!!!!

Saminat 2013-07-03 22:01:52

Were any of the nude models foxy?

Saminat 2013-07-03 22:06:17

Old and wrinkly huh? I'm going to resist making anymore dirty jokes about wrinkles thank you very much.

Also, smart idea about the whole thumbnail thingie. Mindchamber coined the name Faptastic for you, I think it rather fits don't you? :p

TheMastermario22 2013-07-03 22:07:26

NO TIME TO EXPLAIN! GET TO THE PUPPY SHAPED SPACESHIP!!!!

LRN 2013-07-04 00:13:31

I'm a random lurker, so feel free to ignore this, but I mostly enjoyed the Pokemon pictures. Dat Nidoking. =3

Doomroar 2013-07-04 03:48:36

Shade you crazy, it definitively needs more hellish giant monster on post apocalyptic surreal scenarios! (no im not being entitled at all... XD)

i see so is the old "is that a woman?!!" phenomenon, well i guess it makes sense, stalkers will want to know how it was that you ended on their lands haha.

Doomroar 2013-07-04 04:06:07

giant post apocalyptic (hell yeah i like where this is going) macho naked dudes (aaaaaand you lost me)
but i can see the nightmare fuel, oh it burns the retinas!

Nekow 2013-07-04 04:29:15

Completely fell for it. And after you told me about this little experiment a while back yourself. I regret nothing.

MindChamber 2013-07-04 12:22:13

Faptastic strikes again!

Pegosho 2013-07-04 12:38:32

Argh, I'm leaving NG forever!!!! *goes to DeviantArt*

Btw, really nice work Sab. Even though it was all fake, the drawing overall is awesomely done. I really like how you used the turquoise background to make yourself and the thumbnail stand out a lot more. Kudos. :)

VicariousE 2013-07-04 23:02:14

Wow Doomroar wrote you a lot of stuff, any of it help (your insight into NG's demographic)?

On one level, the audience here doesn't matter, because they have little no money to financially patronize the artists (but maybe after they get a cushy job, and don't act all 1337 and boring).

But the Art Portal does matter, it just has a lot of young males looking, so the number of views and to a lesser degree, the score, is skewed. Advertising for the 13-18 male is kinda flashy, absurd, salacious, and low-brow at best. Fresh eyes see far, so any reviews received are quite visceral and honest, more so than dA, which is a candy coated, everyone's a winner, kinda deal.

VicariousE 2013-07-05 00:38:50

Yeah, just remember to keep a measure of aloofness.
The sexiest art teacher I ever had... was a very good teacher, but was so distracting! A proper Catholic-raised Mexican mother of two, no less, but she used to wear such pretty dresses.
After a while the principal asked her to stop wearing dresses altogether. She was always used to living in a warm climate, and when she moved to the NE of the US.. well, she still wanted to dress professionally :\ She was a good sport!

Doomroar 2013-07-05 00:50:13

Hey there Vicarious good point on the demographic, i assumed since the site was quite old, there where a bunch of 20 somethings here, but i guess the majority moved to Youtube (along with Egofaptor XD), anyway yes DA is hell for people like me, i have got entire comments hidden from the public, specially on clubs when they say that they accept all kind of content but the reality is an alienated homogeneous amalgam of constant repetition (yeah all these are synonymous as to illustrate), oh the diabetes that place induces, is like an eternal delusion starting with the admins themselves.

back to the giant wrestling men destroying cities with homoerotic moves, oh god no, NOOOOO!!

VicariousE 2013-07-05 02:54:25

I was about to say something profound, but it's late :) But yeah, for reasons mentioned, I don't go to dA and have stuck with NG, especially since the Art portal's inception. I literally cheered out loud when they announced it, back in the day!
It'd be nice if there was a real-time, collaborative drawing app in the Art BBS... You got some pull with the staff, ask for it! All there is now is the Drawing Grounds game <a href="http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602385">http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/602385</a>

Doomroar 2013-07-05 04:26:31

Collaborations on the art portal? man that is great! if there is something that DA has been actually able to do and i like, and would actually miss if that sugary filled place dies, is the "Exquisite corpses", those are so awesome, is all that is good made by two or more artist filled with dementia XD, if we can implement it, it would be awesome, that and a streaming video chat, so you can go and (if it happens that the artist are digital artist) see them make the picture, so artist A makes one half sends it, and then artist B completes it, and they can add different modes, for example in the traditional Exquisite corpse artist B doesn't knows what Artist A is drawing, but in this case the audience does, and the same goes for artist A who doesn't knows what artist B is doing, except for a little part in the edges when the drawings come together, then they put it together and the revelation happens, like a double streaming, they could do one where everything is visible too, the key will be a good streaming server, and file sharing service, so they can send the files in real time without major delay, that is a thing that Deviant Art doesn't has! or any other site that i may know for that matter, the art portal can also benefit for an option to make direct art trades between users, or the option to see the pieces that are being traded at the same time.

and it also has practical uses for the more mundanes ones that only browse the art portal for porn, think about the collaboration of hentai artist making live streaming and sharing, i know people will like it, the down side is that, that may push the page into a weird direction, not too friendly for a commercial use (even if sex sells even more than drugs).

so my man Vicarious, a real-time collaborative drawing app, that would be huge, you just said something quite profound there XD, the down side is that i'm not quite fond of forums because they tend to robe me of my time, so if it is on the BBS i would miss the majority of them, and would end seeing only the final products posted on the art portal haha, but since is just a personal problem it shouldn't matter.

Doomroar 2013-07-05 06:36:38

haha no problem miss faptastic (as it seems you are called now XD) the Exquisite Corpses be done with lots of time, other times they are done there in place and on the go, but the joke is the team doesn't know the complete image but only a little part that will connect it, and they end looking wonderful, sure most art stiles or trends can't accommodate to this, so your idea of artist completing parts of the work step by step can also work, and they can use the blind tool too if they choose, so they only get to see the work when is their turn.

the live broadcast is to add an entertaining factor, to let other users integrate themselves, its different to lets say ,watching a recorded video on YouTube or doing that using Skype and sending the file over the team members, and lastly posting the finished work somewhere with a note of the creative process behind... that would be extremely easy to do, and really, there is no novelty in there, for that matter there is YouTube already who has an streaming service which sucks but it can do it.

i brought up the example of the Exquisite corpses, because:
1) they are cool as hell XD.
2) very dynamic and realization is fun to watch and do for low level to experienced artist.
3) the thing it self was originally a game that just happens to improve the artist capabilities and potential (so it would be like a live lets play but with art!).
4) as a game it is mean to not take that long so people participating both watchers and artist wont get tired.
5) if you somehow screw up because you feel pressured it doesn't matter because is a game! so you really can't screw up, but if you feel that you did you can redo (or not you can put a rule that says you cant!)
6) it can help you relax as you just go and draw.
7) doesn't really need to have a lack or ban of communication, the other artist don't need to be oblivious to what you are thinking since you can still talk to each other or even read the comments on the chat, you just don't know exactly what the other is drawing, and even with that the team can settle on a theme before they start.
8) Exquisite corpses are by now really old, so it is highly possible they are being made already somewhere on the web, but i don't know if they where like this.

Doomroar 2013-07-05 06:42:37

continuation (man i think these are my longest comments on newgrounds now you see why i avoid the forums?):

Also sure if you are just starting and they put you a lot of obstacles, and you also wan't to feel like you are contributing or standing out, to be noticed, you will feel all the pressure that comes with people seeing how you work, but im thinking from the surreal arts part of the spectrum, and in those cases most of the is really difficult to see once the image is finished who made what.

but yeah i can see how there can be problems here if they do things like landscapes, portraits, character designs, fan art etc. So that is a good point you have there.

have good sleep.

VicariousE 2013-07-19 03:19:17

Wait, what lol? We lack not great thinkers, but great doers... @doomroar, I'd just ask deathink and the guy who made the Drawing Grounds game, to collab on something, though it might have to go through staff.. the 'shared stuff/used generated files' and the fledgeling NG Passport system, doesn't really look two-way at the same time, but there is that potential.

Pitch them both (and the staff for that matter), with the same carefully worded proposal in a PM, and see what happens. If it were a game and not part of the NG infrastructure, the lure of ad-bucks and a damn near permanent slot on the Front Page would be incentive enough to get all concerned cracking.

Doomroar 2013-07-19 04:22:33

@VicariousE
haha, so you are telling me to make this a reality by harassing Deathink , Mattster, Mike and the rest of the staff of Newgrounds with PMs? i don't know man... hold it, this is just too far from the original comments, and i feel like letting Sabtastics's post some space to breath, it would also past as the polite thing to do, so lets continue this on your page.

wonder how the experiment will turn out we are close to those 2 weeks.